Saturday, May 28, 2011

Conspiracy Theories: Pro-Choice and Eugenics

It is entirely possibly to discuss the choices in reproductive freedoms and birth control without entertaining the ideas of eugenics and genocide. I don't praise or worship Margaret Sanger for her classist, and subsequently racist, stance on eugenics and birth control. Similarly, let the record reflect that I'm not thrilled about positive eugenics propoganda handed over by the conspiracy theorist militant Negroes of our communities.

Okay. I understand that this might sound harsh. I also understand that people specify desirable qualities they look for in their mate, which may support a degree of positive eugenics in future family planning. Let's ignore the minor degrees of positive eugenics theories and jump right into the extreme ones. For example, I have an associate that I very much value for a lot of different reasons and opinions. However, in our initial correspondances, he made it clear that he was impressed with my beauty as a young Black woman; aside from my physical beauty, he made it clear that I am very intelligent, knowledgable, and resourceful. And so, in complimenting my personal characteristics, his solution to our friendship was this: we should have children together to improve the quality and condition of the entire Black community, and so that the Black race could better compete with the world. And I did not find this to be brilliant, but instead insulting. Positive eugenics is the practice of encouraging the so-called "genetically advantaged" to procreate. Before, during, and after my dear mixed-up associate identified me as genetically desirable, I leaned away from the idea of having a family. And so, the feeling in my stomach when discussing such theories as his pushed me further and further away from the idea of being a mother. As I often say, not in the forseeable future.

In my veryveryvery not-so humble opinion, when minority communities embrace pro-positive eugenic theories, it not only detracts from the work and responsibility of parents and community in raising children (nurture), but it validates the things that white slave masters actively practiced and believed in with regard to the reproductive exploitation of women slaves in America (nature).

In the early 1900s, Margaret Sanger did fully support negative eugenics - or using birth control to limit fertility as a means to eliminate those deemed genetically unfit - and she did birth the American Birth Control League. As a Black woman, I do not deny nor excuse any of this. This is factual, despite my personal ideologies. She, however, raised a substantial amount of positive points not specific to eugenics, that bleed into different realms of reproduction and human sexuality.

While I am becoming better at respectfully disagreeing and not using what I deem to be, well, just wrong and using it to invalidate all of a person's opinions, it has always been difficult for me to not look at a person and judge them based on their evils. Yet and still, I will respect and defend my mixed-up associate as I will certain aspects of Margaret Sanger in being pro-choice.

The idea that I am supposed to procreate with the aforementioned associate is an inside joke that often comes up between us. When recently joked about, my response was simply that the world is overcrowded and beyond capacity in terms of human population, and that I'd rather not be part of the problem. And while the joking response of my assicate turned my stomach, the theme that anti-choice sentiment included sparked a teeny tiny debate. Yes, there is such a thing. "Our child might be the solution," he says, "with my ferocity and your attitude, he could one day kill millions." I sighed a 'no thanks' to avoid what could have been a match of repartee, and he continued, "I don't think you could make a greater contribution to the resolution of over-population." Laugh, "He could be deadlier than Planned Parenthood."

My response, quick and simple, "Planned Parenthood has helped many women. Not having Planed Parenthood is 'deadlier' than Planned Parenthood. Word." Word. I often think that people like starting with me to see my fire and passion. To see my mind work. To see if I'll back down. (As recent as this morning, my dad tried his best to set me off and then told me that my eyes were really pretty when I am angered.) And so, here we are:

Him, "I thought that would enliven you." Laugh, "But what is the ethnic breakdown of abortion in America and the world. If a people have an adversarial perspective of us, isn't it easier to kill a warrior as an embryo than kill him later on the battlefield?" That was poetic.

Me, "Abortion, unless it isn't a choice to have or NOT have one, is a choice that women make. The problem with anti-choice sentiments is that they don't take into account the choice, and on the other end -- the nonsafe abortions that have and will continue as a result of limiting our resources. One could argue that limiting our resources and having anti-choice billboards specific to the Black community is their way of having us kill ourselves." This is the problem with conspiracy theories.

Him, "What Black people don't consider is demography and the correlation between population shifts and power on our planet. That's why China is such a beast now. They outnumber Americans 5 to 1." Well now, what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? Oh wait.

Me, "That's a separate issue to genocide and certainly to the population overcrowding. And also, poor exdample as China has a limit on children they can birth. And since male children are socially more desirable, female children are adopted out, abandoned, or killed. Which goes back to anti-choice in issues of reproduction and women's bodies. Boom." Boomboomboom.

Him, "I'm talking about birth control as a part of a genocide policy. What are your views on that?"

Me, "I think that if you aren't considering the idea of choice in birth control tactis, you're missing the point. And it isn't genocide unless mandated and/or institutionalized."

Him, "So the issue of choice is tantamount, even in a mass murder plot? Restrict resources and promote pro-choice billboards as part of a genocide campaign? Pretty crafty, but the people are awakening today. And since when does Congress vote on a genocide resolution? The demographers say that at the present rate of birth, Blacks and latinos will be the majority in America by 2050. And you don't think a racist mind would employ and fund Planned Parenthood regardless of its mission statement, to prevent the rise in our numbers?"

Instead of addressing each and every impassioned point that he point he made, the bells sounded and I brought the conversation to a halt. Scrrrrrrrrrrrch. Do I find conspiracy theories interesting? Absolutely. I do not entertain every one thrown at me, of course, but the ones that are detailed enough to illustrate any level of serious reflection at their own inception should be entertained for the amount of effort utilized. I don't know that this was one of those moments. Looking back on it, the response was so well articulated that it may have deserved more than I gave it.

Me, "You can't have it both ways -- you can't say the enemy is plotting and then suggest we are too awakened to fall for it. You're contradicting yourself and eery argument you've ever made. That you suggest the 'enemy' is plotting against us, but then say that my argument [about the pro-choice billboards encourages us to kill ourselves with back-alley abortions] is unappealing because we're awakened. One cancels out the other. Your argument provides that the level of consciousness be qualified, and that is subjective. You can't cancel out my argument in using the 'awakening' but allow your argument to still be valid." Research: unsafe/illegal abortions.

While the debate did not turn ugly and emotional, it did end as they often do: with my being told to step by game up in order to identify "evil machinations executed from high levels of power" and questioning whether or not I truly identify that there is an opponent.

More than anything, I oppose themes and ideologies; if I opposed people instead, my associate and I would not have any interest in speaking to one another for the fiery debates in the past that often ended in name-calling. (I'm not a namecaller.) I'd have to considering turning away from people much more for their choices and beliefs that are anti-me. It would be difficult to survive in our world, and I would be forced to be alone. My work would be destroyed; I've reluctantly advocated for people who hated me more than the forces that are against us.

I'm learning. Respect. Be Righteous.


  1. Black women are sick.

    Save yourselves men, the life you save may be your own and your childs.


  2. (- __ -) Marcus.... Sir.... your ignorance is showing. Tuck it in.

  3. Now, now...

    leave your mother out of this,

    she still chose to have U.

  4. Conspiracy theorists - the militant Black types - are more entertaining than infuriating to me. I've had discussions with quite a few on the very subject of the Black abortion propaganda often peddled by right-wing groups. What's funny to me is that they (anti-choice groups) are all suddenly concerned about Black babies, or should I say fetuses. They damn sure don't care about them once being born, and onew would think the Militant Black Conspiracy theorist would be able to see this, but yet they seek solace in said conspiracies. Like you said, Planned Parenthoof has done more for women (and men) by being in existence, and no, it's not about abortions but instead allowuing women (mostly middle to low income women) access to health care they otherwise couldn't.

  5. Very disrespectful. Further, the hatred of Black women is NOT appreciated here. Wrong blog.

  6. What else would you expect on a blog centered on hatred and killing of black fetuses? The nerve of you. Be OUT fool.

  7. Sir, you clearly did not read my blog. And again, the hatred of Black women is not welcome. Your comment lacks insight and, actual point.

  8. I thought it was a fun conversation. I enjoy our exchanges... And yes, no matter which side of the anti-choice movement, it never makes sense to me.

  9. Please, your here advocating a freakin' eugenicists who hated blacks and I'm the one w/lack of "insight"???

    You know I have heard yearly that black men should show sexual responsibility for their actions and here black women are scurrying from the same accountability and throwing fits over being called out on their carelessness regarding the very same thing.

    You got the point the first time, don't play ignorant now.
    Show some responsibility for yourselves and stop crying to us for help after being called out, asking us to do what you clearly can't. BE RESPONSIBLE, there's a life involved. Seems ya'll just want a pass while cursing black men's very penis. Man-Up Abortionist. Yuck.

    Ya'll look HYPOCRITICAL.

  10. Both Black men and Black women should take responsibility and accountability for their sexual activities. That is a separate issue in and of itself. The thing is, regardless of whether or not a woman chooses to have an abortion, the issue of abortion isn't what being pro-choice is about. Being pro-choice is about having the choice. Regardless of your feelings on abortion itself, nobody has the right to control women's bodies - especially in choices of reproductive freedoms. And given the history of reproductive exploitation and RAPE of Black women in this country by white male slave masters AND Black men in our country, I think that loving Black women (and people) has to do with allowing THAT freedom.

    Furthermore, if you had read the post (which nothing in your replies indicate), you would realize that the post acknowledges positive and negative eugenics and my disagreement with it. I'm not going to re-write the entire post in replies. I generally do not respond to internet trolling. The fact of the matter is, you're ignoring the choice in pro-choice and focusing on abortion funding policies. Whether or not I'd have an abortion is none of anyone's business - you don't own my body. You don't have the right to tell me what to do with it.
    Finally, your ignorance alone is beyond enough; but the anti-women language in your post speaks volumes about your ideals. Man up, indeed.

  11. another thing here,

    wouldn't it be considered coercive and potentially RAPE if I was to sayyyy,
    make a woman a mother against a will?

    yet women are making men fathers against their will, coercively, and calling it FREEDOM. Yet via that FREEDOM they get the option to commander men's finances based on a THEIR choice that they want to keep exclusively their own. What a Hustle?!

    Ya'll just a killing, raping, criminal cartel when it gets right down to it. heh?

    -yeah, I don't want women's irresponsibility covered for anymore. Should be revoked. (Got the nerve to blast there victims, fathers and babies while getting diplomatic immunity from killing. Yeah it's eugenics alright.)

  12. Dear sir,

    Again, I appreciate your comments but I do not appreciate (nor will I tolerate) your disrespect of this space. As a result, I am going to be moderating my comments from here on. Your hatred of Black women is apparent in each of your replies. If you would like to reply with something remotely insightful or with greater depth than, to paraphrase, "Black women are worthless", then by all means, reply.

    However, from this point on, comments will be filtered and moderated through me, the owner of this blog.

  13. "If you would like to reply with something remotely insightful or with greater depth than, to paraphrase, "Black women are worthless", then by all means, reply. "

    You couldn't handle the sense of what I already wrote. Women don't deserve special treatment while berating men constantly for "RESPONSIBILITY "& "Man-Up". Why should women be in the clear? You want license to have an abortion? OK, sick but OK. And then women get to DRAFT some mans wallet for their choice?  Their choices are LEGALLY ignored why should I OR ANYONE continue to support abortion? It's insanely hypocritical. and as such, should be stripped and returned to illegality except in FAR narrower cases. Why as a black man should I support it?
    Black women have been tearing black men to pieces with cries of stepping-up. What part of stepping-up includes a free pass for their very accusers? Explain that if ya would...